How could Joe get VAC and ESL banned when this cheat should be UD on both?

[abbetappe]

I'm going to buy LC but I got 1 question, and it's in the title. Could some1 explain?

Also let's say I want to play ESEA, do I just remove the client and then download it again when I don't want to play ESEA anymore?

 

[HaxorZ]

This has been addressed already he was manually banned because he is a noob, Therefore he got VAC banned because he was banned on ESL.

The ESEA question i have no answer for sorry.

 

[unknownuser]

i dont think you get vacd if u get esl banned

 

[chimichangas]

i dont think you get vacd if u get esl banned

You do, If you Get banned on ESL, VAC gives you ban too

 

[Sui7]

if you get band on a semi big stream like him you will get a manual vac ban the cheat is not detected he probably used walls

 

[unknownuser]

You do, If you Get banned on ESL, VAC gives you ban too

s1mple had a cheating bann aswell and wasnt vac banned some friends got banned by esl aswell

 

[forzaBlack]

in my opinion he just got manually banned because he was a lil bit to blantant.

 

[sekundus]

u get banned when u are nob and can't read forums how to configure ur cheat.

 

[4DHERo]

i dont think you get vacd if u get esl banned

Valve vac banned him to add to injury

 

[abbetappe]

none really got a good answer, VAC doesn't ban u if u get ESL ban, they are 2 different companies. Also ESL could ban whoever they want and that doesn't mean VAC will do the same. Also s1mple got banned some yrs ago but he never recieved a VAC

 

[KILLPAWNS]

For the ESL matter, I honestly think he didn't read the instructions on how to play ESL properly. That's why he got rekt. Given that he was banned on a stream and it was a clean bust, VAC just reacted to it because ppl would have cried about the fact, that he was banned live on stream but not by VAC. So it was a simple reaction to it. No other VAC bans are known so that should be "proof" enough for you.